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Glow Fan Casting | Plated Prisoner Series Book 4: Who Should Play Ryatt?

Loretta Anne Miller & Emyli Gudmundson Season 2 Episode 21

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Join us, Loretta and Emyli, in this week’s episode of FanCastic as we journey back into Orea to fan cast our favorite characters from Glow, the fourth installment in Raven Kennedy’s Plated Prisoner series. From our favorite sitcom actors to perfect picks, we break down who we think embodies these beloved characters. 

We even had two (yes, TWO) actor matches between us, proving great minds think alike (or we are spending far too much time together). 

Whether you’re obsessed with Auren’s journey, still reeling from the twists, or just love imagining your favorite book characters on screen, this episode is packed with passionate debates, hot takes, and plenty of laughs.

Plus — our fan-favorite segment is back.
We’re bringing the energy with Rant & Rave, where we share what we’re loving and what we’re absolutely not about our week. Expect unfiltered opinions, relatable moments, and a few controversial takes.

In this episode:

  •  Fan casting Glow characters from the Plated Prisoner series 
  •  Discussion of Daughter of No Worlds
  •  Discussing our current read of Gold
  •  Two matching actor picks and what that says about our casting choices 
  •  The challenge of casting the perfect Ryatt 
  •  The return of our Rant & Rave segment 
  •  Bookish banter, laughs, and honest reactions 
  • A lot of singing (?)

Tune in now if you love fantasy books, fan casting, and spirited conversations with your book besties.

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SPEAKER_02

Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Fancastic the fan casting podcast where we fancast all your favorite fantasy, romantic, and fiction. I'm Loretta. And I'm Emily. That was lovely. I'm getting to be like more of a sports announcer.

SPEAKER_00

I love it. But with like a musical paper twist. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like a little vaudeville.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. A little vaudevillean. I like it. Jason Sportsball announcer.

SPEAKER_02

Jasons. Welcome, Fun Guts Dick. Okay. Yeah, hey guys. So we're here for our fan cast of Glow.

SPEAKER_03

Glow.

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Glow.

SPEAKER_03

You're like counting. I literally was like, one, two, three, four. The fourth one. We're doing the fourth one.

SPEAKER_02

Guild glint gleam glow. We're here for glow, where we have quite a few people to cast and did some fun, different age-defying ones. So, like, that'll be really fun. But before we do that, guys, uh, one thing I want to add, we're doing our call to action because podcasts are supposed to do that. And I made a graphic for it. Here's the graphic, guys. If you're new here, make sure you like, subscribe, comment, and share to make sure all your other friends are listening to Fancastic. If you've been with us since the beginning, we thank you so much. We're so glad you're here. And welcome to our fan cast. Yay! Okay. That was pretty good. Thank you. Totally, totally on the spot, spitballed it. But I did make a graphic. I was like, you said here's the graphic, and I was like, okay, damn, let's see it. I made it so that maybe YouTube will push our content to more than 10 people.

SPEAKER_03

You know what? We're growing. We're growing.

SPEAKER_02

But uh, all that to say, that's our new call to action. It'll be part of every intro. Get used to it. Get ready for it. Get ready for it. Another thing that we like to do is our rant and rave before our fan cast episode. Since we have so much to fan cast, we don't want to sit here and talk about things for a million years. So we do a cute little rant and rave of our week. Emily, why don't you start with your rant or rave?

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna do a rave this week, and I'm gonna rave about the book that I'm reading. Oh, I can actually do a rant and a rave because I had a really funny thought while I was reading this book. Perfect. So I am on book two of Believe the series as a whole is called War of Lost Hearts, I do believe. The first book is uh Daughter of No Worlds by Carissa Broadbent. Uh the second book is Wow, holy shit, Children of Fallen Gods. You finished that first book? Well, yeah, I'm halfway through book two. We're garms. We are speeding away. And here's the thing about this book. I love this book. The book is amazing. The book is great. We have exceptional world building. Tasana is the main character. She's wonderful. Maxontarius Falone is the male main character. He's excellent. Yeah, his name is Max Centarius. The whole thing. Don't worry, we call him Max. That's a fucking mouthful. I love that like the romance is not even like a B plot, it's like a C plot. But like it's still good when it happens. But like they got worlds to save and slaves to free. We got to do. That's my shit. Um, and she's amazing and she's wonderful, and I love her. Um, and as I was reading it in the second book, we get a little Manon situation where all of a sudden we get a POV from a character we've never heard from before, and you're like, who the fuck is the book are you? And why is she Faye? I did not know there were Faye in this book. There's Faye now, and she's not interacting with anybody we've met before. And it's been like a while now. Like it's been several chapters, and I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how these two storylines are going to overlap. I have assumptions, I have guesses, I have thoughts and whims and whims queries, but I have no idea how they're gonna overlap, and I'm delighted to find out. As I was reading it, I texted my friend Mary, who's also read it and she loves it, and I was telling her how much I love it, and I was like, it's shocking, it's one thing that I'm taking away from this is it makes me hate Quicksilver even more. So my rant is about Quicksilver and how shitty that book is. Because what Christa Bradman is doing, my sorry, my biggest beef with Quicksilver is how many things are introduced by the end of the book. Like we start with a pretty typical, like, me, I could never have powers, and then thrust into a world and you have all the powers, and there's a vampire queen. I love it. And then all this is the queen of the vampires, and there's two types of zombies, and the gods are real, and like there's too many things happening. And like that's definitely what's happening in this book, uh, Daughter of No Worlds, but at a reasonable pace with thought and care and backstory, and like there's a scene where this new character, Apha, gets really like they hint that something is wrong with her, like she's lost the right to her own throne because of whatever's wrong with her. And there's a scene where she's like, I got really mad and I could feel my canines descending, and I'm like, oh, so she's a vampire or like a werewolf or something, but I wasn't pissed off about it because it was like thoughtfully done and interesting, and I'm like, There could be vampires. Sure. Why wouldn't there be? Like, we just found out that Max is a spoiler alert, redacted. Like, there's things happening, and I d and it's exciting and new, not like, are you fucking kidding me? Another thing. Yeah. But like, I love this book so much, it's making me hate another book even more than I already hated it. So that's a rant and rave. All together. All together.

SPEAKER_02

Playstad one. Wait, that makes me really excited though to eventually read that because I like it. A lot of people have said it's insanely good.

SPEAKER_00

It really do be twisting and turning, though. Like there's a lot of adventures and plot points and crazy shit. And it's a wild ride.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You're not gonna like the female voice narrator. I'm just gonna tell you that right now, but she's gonna grow on you. She does, she's British, which is delightful. For some reason, her initial voice of Tizana, the almost all of book one, is Tasana's point of view. And when she's reading just like Tasana's thoughts and her narration, it's a totally normal voice. But for some reason, when she's speaking as Tasana, her voice gets quite high in a way that feels really childish. And Tizana's like 22. Like, she's not like a famished teenager who's been thrust into war. Like 22 is obviously still very young, but she's like an adult. And like, so she's like her voice gets a hair too childish for me. And I as soon as she started, I was like, Loretta's gonna hate this. Who the narrator is. Yeah, she's quite good. Like, she does good voices for the different people. Her name is Esther Wayne, and I genuinely think she's very talented. I just like that choice threw me off a little bit where I was like, she's an adult, and the guy is good. Okay. He talks pretty fast because I was had to switch Esther to 1.2, just like a little a hair quicker. And I have to switch Max's chapters back down to one because he speaks at a normal pace. You should both you should all be speaking at the same pace. We should be on board about the pace.

SPEAKER_02

That's what was happening in Plated Prisoner.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I'm at 1.8 for Arn because she drive me cuckoo nanas with the I whatever. And so Yeah. And I'm like, get it out! How do you feel?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And Slate is like Slade is like, and then I ripped his head out, and I hate him, and fuck that guy. And then it's so fast.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm like, I'm just switching back and forth from like Max's chapters to uh to Zana and what did I say her name was? Afa. Afa. Afa.

SPEAKER_02

Interesting. I like that rant and rave of all chunked into one. Um, okay, I will go with my rave. My rave is that I'm reading gold now. I'm I just hit 50% right before this. I mean so I should be able to wrap it up. This is my favorite. Hands down. It's good. This is this is a five-star for me already. Having the multiple point of views in the same place was very hard for me because I was like, I already know what the fuck's going on. I don't need everybody's point of view on the same topic. Now that's not the case. Everybody is everywhere else on their own little journey. Oseric is doing his thing. Slade is on his wrought revenge tour, which I love. I'm like, get him. Yeah, burn it all to the ground. Burn it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they did take your girl from you, and you were gonna hurt everybody who wronged her. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I ha I do have a have to issue a correction from last time. I did, I did call them temptress maidens. Um, they're actually called temperance matrons.

SPEAKER_00

You said that, and I was like, I don't know that that's right, but it's been a while since I've read the book, so maybe.

SPEAKER_02

I was really close.

SPEAKER_00

It was really close.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe when he he goes back to second.

SPEAKER_00

He like offs them, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And it like first he makes them like scrub down the queen, who I already know who I'm. If we're casting her, I know who it is. Like in my noggin.

SPEAKER_00

The queen of the yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I don't know if we are or not, but I right away like pictured someone that I was like, oh my god. He makes them like scrub her down and then he just kills everybody. It's pretty great. I'm really enjoying it. Like, I was like, there's one thing about I love I love it, justice.

SPEAKER_00

I also love how into it Judd gets, where he's like, I don't know that this is the best use of your time, but I'm here for it.

SPEAKER_02

Listen, he's like, whatever you need, man. Like whatever works for you.

SPEAKER_00

Because it's like I should go kill that guy for you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And then he does it. And I'm like a big fan of um Osric is now torturing Manu, uh, and is like, your life is linked to Rissa's. So whatever the fuck she's doing, you get it. Rissa got stitches, so you're getting stitches, even though you don't need them. Like, I love that. Um ver is my new vocal stim.

SPEAKER_00

They all say it in such a weird way.

SPEAKER_02

Liari ouvert.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, are we in France? Like, what why are you talking like that? Are we talking like that? Liari ouvert.

SPEAKER_02

The Nanette's accent was kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Like it was like Well, it could be bananas, but I'm into it. How do we know how people Yeah. Yeah. That just happened. What are the best people's names? The uh the like wait the cafe staff, the two, the couples that run the cafe with the net. What are their names?

SPEAKER_02

Tur s uh Okay, well, first of all, Arn's last name is like Turley. It's Turley! Arm Thurley. That feels really normal. I like it, but I was like grounding.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay. It's uh Thur Thur Fuck. Don't look at me. I have no memory of it at all.

SPEAKER_02

Thir Thurston or something. Have you met the boy yet?

SPEAKER_00

The like leader of the rebels?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Wick. Uh she yeah, he just unveiled her to the rebels. And they're like, Leon Riven! They're all like freaking out, and she's like, How dare you do that? You made me a spectacle and I hate you. And then I paused right there. So I'm right at 50%.

SPEAKER_00

You're also about to meet another female character who's like pretty prominent to the next two books. Could not for the life of me remember her name. I saw fan art of her when I was working on this deck, and I was like, who is Emory?

SPEAKER_02

Like I thought, oh, does she have red hair and piercing? Yeah. I already met her briefly. So brief.

SPEAKER_00

I'm only 60% sure I'm saying the right name.

SPEAKER_02

I I think I feel like it is Emery. We also we did do Queen Kyla last time with a C, and apparently it's a K. I thought it was a C.

SPEAKER_00

I really thought it was a C. Me too.

SPEAKER_03

Like, because I was thinking that out.

SPEAKER_02

I know. No, no, no. I I I saw it. No one was mean. Everyone can eat shit if they would. Like if they would. I don't know. You would like some skin. Paul, please, sir. Please, sir, eat some shit. Um, my rant is uh I was in a hit and run on Monday night. Yeah. Uh in like the weirdest fashion. I was at a stoplight, car in front of me, no plates, just started backing up. And I was like, Where you fuck you going? I couldn't go anywhere.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And they decided to like meet, meh, meet, meh, meet, mrk, meet, mrk, meep, mm, like 12-point turn. And they hit everything in sight, including my car. So whoa. Parked cars. They were a huge SUV. It was like one of the big like Tesla SUVs. No place. No, not the big, not the not as big as a Cybertruck, but it was like the bigger, not the like the car one, but like the I don't know anything about Teslas, and I tried to get it.

SPEAKER_00

So we'll just say big Tesla.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was like the big booty Tesla. Um it was that because it's big booty kept hitting everything. Okay. And then they fucking yeeted out of there. Like they just ran away. And uh was like so confused because I was like, what do I even do? Like, yeah, like they like clipped my car. So it was like crunch, scrape, and they were gone. And I was like, that feels like it sounds bad. I'm fine. My house is a block away. I'm gonna go home. But as I was like starting to go, the car in front of them was like this Toyota with like tinted windows and like puffs of weed coming out of it, did a perfect three-point turn and hit nothing. Hit nothing. That's how fed after them. And I went, uh-oh, someone's gonna die. Like I was like, well I'm gonna drive in the other direction.

SPEAKER_03

That's LA, baby. That's LA baby. Well sit, West Coast.

SPEAKER_00

Like, West Side, best side. Alright. I wonder if you file an insurance claim if they can get the red light camera footage.

SPEAKER_02

That's actually uh that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_00

I always the tone of surprise. Yeah.

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_03

No. Actually, we have really good ideas. Wow, Emily.

SPEAKER_02

You always have good ideas. I I like briefly thought about it and then I was like, is it worth it? I have a scratch this big. It's a I have an old Kia. And so it's like she's like, she's from 2015, so it's like time. Like this bitch old. But she could uh she protect me. Good. But in assessing the damage, I realized someone has keyed my car. What? Yes. In assessing the damage, I went someone keyed your car? Yes. I don't know when or where, but I was like, what the fuck is this? What the fuck? And then I like followed it, and it is the entire length of my vehicle. There's just a scrape all along it. And I have a white car, so like you really can't see it. Yeah. But if someone did it, and I went, for what? My twilight sticker on my bumper. My be a Lilith, not an Eve. Like maybe it was like Christian who was like upset about that. I mean my Avatar sticker on it.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

My snake seat covers. Like, what's your damage? I feel like they just have their own problems with life. It's definitely not my parking because I park perfectly. I'm an excellent parker.

SPEAKER_00

Do I know why? Because my car has a 360-degree camera and I barely have to do anything. It parks itself. You say, Val, you park this for me. Park. Um Val, new Val, brand new Val, who's less than like nearly a month old. Did get swip swiped, I think, in my Pilates parking lot. I didn't see it happen. It was there when I came out, and there's a little scratch above my wheel well, and I have a black car, so it is very visible. That pisses me off. She's my baby's brand new.

SPEAKER_03

She's brand new. She's like, I'm welcome to LA. Like you know, my husband said, We can get a sharpie.

SPEAKER_00

My husband wants a sharpie in the scratch on my car. No. No, no, we shan't. No, we shan't. Sharpie. We're not sharpie. He also, there's also like a small dent involved, like a teensy tiny dent at like a seam, I guess. And he was like, you can just put use a plunger and we can get the dent out. And he sa sometimes he says things and he's like clearly joking. He sounds very serious. Is this does that work? I have no idea he's gonna try it and we'll report back. I want a video of it. I will take one. I want to see it.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna come over. I'm coming over.

SPEAKER_00

We'll do this again. Uh we will plunger Val's right hand side.

SPEAKER_03

Plunger Val's plunger Val's little shoulder. Shoulder. Um, scratches.

SPEAKER_01

This episode's about cars.

SPEAKER_00

What?

SPEAKER_01

This episode is all about cars.

SPEAKER_00

All about cars. Welcome back to Car Talk on the city.

SPEAKER_02

Welcome to the new podcast all about cars, hosted by two women who know about cars.

SPEAKER_00

Not because we're women, no, but because we don't care. We don't care. I know how to change a tire. I knew how to check my oil and how I check all my little fluids. Except here's the thing now is I drive an electric car and it doesn't have any fluids. Who gives a shit? I know how to know nothing. But you know how to change a tire. If you know how to change a tire, and everybody should know how to change a tire. That's the takeaway from this podcast episode is if you don't know how to change your own tire, you should learn. It's really easy, and there are a lot of very helpful YouTube videos. It's really not as hard as you think.

SPEAKER_02

So easy. And every girl in Minnesota, most girls in Minnesota learned how to do that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And as well as putting on snow chains, which we don't ever have to do again. Never again.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

You remember that? Because we all had like really shitty cars. We had really shitty cars. We went to school in Duluth, which is on a hill with a famous lake at the bottom.

SPEAKER_01

Girl, how many times on heading down 21st, the hill of 21st, literally just the bridge ended right here and it was right into the lake.

SPEAKER_02

There were so many times where I was like, this is it. You'd always try to just like kind of aim for the McDonald's that was at the bottom of the hill if that was happening. Like you'd be like, maybe if I could just hit this McDonald's instead of coast into this sparking lot.

SPEAKER_00

Don't worry about it. Coast into the drive-thru and be like, I'm gonna wait until the snow plows come out before I try to make it back to class.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. All right. Um, let's rein it in. I'm getting I'm getting loopy and crazy. Those were our rant and raves. Let's uh it's fan cast time. That's it. Do it. It's time to fancast.

unknown

Time.

SPEAKER_02

It's time to fan cast Glow. By Ray Baby King. Okay. Oh, I thought we were saying it together.

SPEAKER_03

I was like, uh okay.

SPEAKER_00

Look at this. Look at our beautiful assemblage of human beings. Holy fuck. These are some of the prettiest people I've ever seen in my life.

SPEAKER_02

They really are. They all look so good. The budget for this show is massive.

SPEAKER_00

Billions with a beat. Should we go through who's on here? Yes. OG podcast listeners who can't see what we're looking at. Yes. We have assembled our cast so far, uh, based on our viewers' votes. Uh who won our casting. Okay, over here we have Yara Shahidi as our girl Arin and Summerholder as Blade. Not the one either one of us picked, but the one that we deserved. That's the popular vote. It's the popular vote. Um, down here we have uh Tati Gabriel as Lou and Jason Momoa as Osric. My boy Tom Holland as Judd, who I picked with an intimidating picture of him because Judd is like goofy silly time, but also like in this book, he kills a bunch of people. He like has a great time doing it.

SPEAKER_02

Tom Holland came in from behind. Uh-huh. Diddy. Diddy. Um he did. Rob Rausch was doing good. And then I, when you were like, hey, wait, what were our results from last week? And I went, oh shit. He's winning. He's winning with like big percentages. And um, okay, continue.

SPEAKER_00

Up here, uh, we have our little trio of saddles vomit. Okay, Grace Van Patten as our girl Rissa. You'll notice some subtle foreshadowing in her placement here. For those listening along at home, I'm circling the fact that I placed her strategically right next to Osric for no reason whatsoever. Um, we have our girl Alexa Demi, happy uh season four of Euphoria to all those who celebrate, who plays Mist, our pregnant saddle. What's up with her right now at the point you are currently at?

SPEAKER_02

Holly has just arrived uh to demand and see Rissa, and Osric said, fuck no, get out. So But where's Mist? Mist? Haven't heard from her yet.

unknown

Great.

SPEAKER_02

She is still MIS and she was like, no, you killed him. So nothing from last book, nothing yet. And I have not gotten a Queen Kyla POV in a minute.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. No further questions. Okay. Moving on to the right. Uh, we have my girl Megan West from Ryan Murphy's 911, my favorite show on television. Who does play our girl Polly? She's wonderful. Down here we have Major Attaway, King Arthur from the uh touring Broadway production of Spanalot as Keg. He's perfect. Excellent choice, everybody. Uh, followed here by Kihei Kwan, who is our resounding agreed upon Hojat. Uh, we will accept no other options as Hojat, he's perfect. Going back up, we have Britt Marley from the OA, right? Yes. As Queen Malina.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, currently my fave.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I told you she's going on a journey.

SPEAKER_02

It's a domic right now.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, get it. Get it, girl. So great. We have Alexander Skarsgard playing the fuck ass King Midas, who's dead now.

SPEAKER_02

Rip and not as in Commander, as in Rest in Pieces. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Fuck that guy.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, over here we have Digby as Noel Wiley.

SPEAKER_02

Whatever pose he's doing.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, listen, when I was making this, I had to find full body standing photos because of the division of the design that I had. And then I decided to do two layers, and it turns out I didn't actually need standing photos, but I already know I like them.

SPEAKER_02

I just would like to know why why Noel Wiley is uh dropping an album.

SPEAKER_00

Like he looks like he's got like an RB album coming up. I mean I think that's how he stands outside of RN's cage where he's like, get out of here. I don't know. You fuck with me. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02

I love it. I love it too.

SPEAKER_00

Uh down here we have our Queen Kyla with a K, apparently. Uh Jamila Jamil. Uh here we have her brother Manu, who is cannot remember his last name. Uh Tush. Ambudkar.

SPEAKER_02

Ambudkar.

SPEAKER_00

Who is looking dapper in a sparkly black jacket. Hell yeah. I tried to find him wearing blue, and he had like this really cool blue red carpet, but I could only find watermarked photos. And oh bad.

SPEAKER_02

I like the sparkly one. It feels very hem.

SPEAKER_00

And then we have uh Jacob Levi Collins playing our little baby boy Sale. Baby Sale.

SPEAKER_03

So many people. We've cast so many people.

SPEAKER_02

We've been doing literally the most, and I love it. We're doing everybody. And also, may I say, diversity killing it.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh. Doing pretty good.

SPEAKER_02

And we're gonna add more. Who are we taking it off with?

SPEAKER_00

This play's gonna this slide is gonna look crazy uh next time you see it. Okay, here we go. As a reminder, last week you issued me a challenge to think of an early 2000s actor who resembles Ian Summerholder. We should also say that we showed that slide because we are casting based on that. So there's a lot of families involved in this casting. So we're using those people like Slade and Keg as starting points for some of the people we met. Yes. In this, in this book. Yes. Okay, so this is our boy Riot. This is Slade's half-brother, who we find out is fully human. He looks enough like Slade to play fake rip when Slade needs to be in two places at one time. Football husband did spoil that we have two identical matches. Uh, this round. We have two of them. And I really hope that this is one of them because you issued me a challenge, and I really had to put my little thinking bonnet on to come up with early 2000s actors who look like Ian Zummerholder, and I'm so nervous because if I got it wrong, I really think you got it right. I truly believe in you. I really should not play riot, but if we're going based on just looks, he should play riot. Okay, ready. Set. Girl. We did it. Oh my god, amazing. He looks so much like him.

SPEAKER_02

He looks just it's like him. Crazy. I used to think they were the same when I was. So I'm a gossip girl, girly. And I'm a vampire diaries girly. And there were many moments where I'd be like, that's they're not the same, right? Because they were like airing at the same time. I mean, have we ever seen them in the same place at the same time? I don't think I have.

SPEAKER_00

Your conspiracy theory, unless.

SPEAKER_02

And now Chase Crawford is playing the deep in The Boys, who is on their final season and is a show that I work on with the music. And I see him just be a doofus, but a very brutal doofus. And so I was like, I think he could play him. He could, he'd have to beef up. I think he'd have to beef up a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but here's the thing: he looks a little more human than like Ian Summerholder looks like a vampire. Yes. And Chase Crawford looks like a dude, like from Beverly Hills. Like he looks like he could be like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, dude. I'm so glad you got it. I told you I would buy you brunch. I owe you brunch. You've won brunch. Blessed. I'm so happy. What a way to kick things up. Okay, so easy. Yeah. Easy. Done. Chase Crawford is our riot. We knew it. I knew you could get it. Oh, thank you. I knew you could. I knew you could. I was like, she's either gonna pick him or you're you were going to pick what's his face from supernatural?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, Jared Padelecki.

SPEAKER_02

Jared, yes. Yeah, because you right, you had said that before.

SPEAKER_00

It's just better. Yes. Yeah. So yeah, we do have another match somewhere in here, so we'll see where that goes.

SPEAKER_02

My God, wait, that I'm really excited about because I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So we have Allure. Mm-hmm. This is Slade and Riot's half-fei, half-human mother. She lives in solitude and she no longer speaks after suffering years of abuse at the hands of Stanton Cole, their Slade's father, or yeah, Slade's father, and the horrific events of the rip when Slade rips the world apart to save them. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Ready? Yes. Psycho.

SPEAKER_02

Oh! Oh my god. No, yours is really good though, too. And like we are big Firefly fans.

SPEAKER_00

I went. There's a bit of a theme this week for me. I have a coup like a couple Firefly moments. Okay, Emmy Rossom. I do. I think visually is stunning.

SPEAKER_02

I I have Emmy Rossom because there, um, so Slade made a point of heavily notating that she has not aged. Yeah. Since this rip. Like basically, everyone that was ripped from there was like frozen in time, sorta. And so I was like, okay, let me try to math it a little bit. And I feel like he, I I can't remember exactly, but I feel like Arn says, like, she doesn't look much older than me. And there's just a little bit of like graying at the temples a little bit. And the first person I thought of was Stacey London, fashion correspondent from What Not to Wear. Who has like the silver, but she has aged significantly since the years I have watched, she's still beautiful.

SPEAKER_00

By the way, is good and normal, and women should just age normally, and everybody else should fuck off about it. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

My rant for the week is let women age. Women age. I would have cast her from like 2005. I think she would be perfect. So I my train of thought was who gives me those same kind of vibes? And that's Emmy Rossom. I love it.

SPEAKER_00

I have um who I whose name I always thought was pronounced Morena Bakarin, but I've since learned that it might be Bacharine. Um yeah, she's Brazilian. Um I I always thought it was Marina Bacarin as well. Yeah. I am gonna say Inara Sarah is who I have cast uh from Firefly, also Deadpool, and a bajillion other things. I just think she's beautiful and like very gentle, but also like can hold her own. And like she had to survive Stanton Call for all of those years and like stand up for her kids. And like she took a lot of it to protect her kids. And I think like Morena has that like quiet strength while also being like just beautiful and soft and lovely. Yeah. And I she also has the cheekbones. She has the Ian Summerholder cheekbones. Yep. Sure. But it wasn't me Rossam. So I think that's either one.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I like I I quite literally like yours more. I think that I think it's so spot on, and she's a little bit more ethereal, even though Allure is Orion.

SPEAKER_00

Um so on my sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you. I just this was a question I had, which was the internet says she's half fee, half human, but my brain says she's 100% Orion. But she, when they the whole thing was that the Faye brought Orians over to be their servants and gifted them long life. Yeah. So I don't think she's half, I think that's a mistake on the slide. I don't think she's half fee. I think she's an Orion who's been gifted long life.

SPEAKER_02

And and she's been given gifted power or something. She has the power. She's a seer.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe she is half fee. Can we? She's in our comments now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Raven, is she half or was she just gifted it? Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Raven. Also, please vote on our fan cast this time. Um, please. Um, okay, I love our choices. These are great. And very, very much same font. Yes. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, next. Isali. Isaline is Keg and Barley's mom and Warwick's wife. Um, she's the Crown Regent of Fourth Kingdom along with Warwick, and she manages the kingdom when Slade is absent, which is often. He doesn't really want to be there, frankly. No. Um, yeah, so really I have no memory of how she's described, except she I think she's described as somewhat motherly and like feels I think she's also described as curvy. Yes. And uh we cast Major Atway as Keg, so this would be his mother.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. One thing that stood out to me in my casting choice for like for my casting choice was when she's first introduced, she kind of makes like a little funny. Like she makes like a little joke of like it's very formal, and she kind of says something as like, it's that's not not all that formal. Like it was very like um, yeah, it made me think of this person right away, and then I couldn't see it.

SPEAKER_00

And I went very regal and like can command a room. God. Where we go. Okay, ready said go. Go.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

He's supposed to can uh choose between those. Both of them. I told you I was on a firefly kick.

SPEAKER_02

I love both of them. Well, now you and I have seen Jor Gina Torres live right in front of our faces.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and she can command a room.

SPEAKER_02

She sure can. She sure can. Oh, I like her being very regal and kind of, but she's also very funny in like a sarcasm way.

SPEAKER_00

Like when she's in suits, she'll crack jokes with people for the people listening. I have Gina Torres as my select for easily. I think she can be very funny, but she also could run a kingdom, and I would be vaguely intimidated by her.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

Um, I have Janelle James from Abbott Elementary. She just can I kind of feel like I feel like Keg.

SPEAKER_02

She's great. I feel like Keg was maybe like a handful. Like I feel like they all had a happy childhood. Yeah. Right? And he's like a little bit of a handful. And it sounds like uh sister is like a little bit of a handful.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I'm like, who would be able to handle these children with grace and give them such a good personality?

SPEAKER_00

Allow them to keep their joy and like yes.

SPEAKER_02

And I was like, None other than the principal of Abbott Elementary, obviously.

SPEAKER_00

She has some like serious moments in that show too, which she does quite well.

SPEAKER_02

She does. She does really, really well. There's uh one of the episodes where um it's like her dad or something. She doesn't want her dad wants to like celebrate her being the principal or something. And she does not have a relationship with her dad. I remember that episode standing out to me.

SPEAKER_00

Because I'm like succeeding now. You had you don't want anything to do with me when I wasn't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Yeah. And I that that episode killed me because I was like, wow, like you have range, bitch. Like, range. Yeah. So I love her and I love both of these choices. And this is why it's so great we don't have to make this choice.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I am don't embody the people that do. I do have to tell you, one of my and football husbands probably inappropriate vocal stems that we do do from Abbott Elementary is the episode. It's, I don't even remember the context, but she somebody uh is like, there was a time when you told people that you were Jill Scott, and Quinta Brunson goes, You don't look anything like Jill Scott. And she just goes, white people in South Philly, I do. And just we say that all the time. You don't look anything like Jill Scott. White people in South Philly, I do. But I'm not from Philadelphia, so I feel like it's okay. Um, yeah. I like all the time.

SPEAKER_02

No, she and she's got the best one-liners. Yes. The most recent episode I was watching. Someone comes into her office and she has a sign on her desk that says hello, and she goes, I'm gonna get myself a sign that says goodbye.

SPEAKER_00

I um was just watching a clip on TikTok of the scene where the kid gets sent to her office for calling Jacob the N-word. And she obviously thinks it's the N-word because the kid won't say what the word is, and then the secretary has to come and be like, he called him a nerd. Like, relax. She goes, Oh, it's fine, you can go back to class. Don't come to my office.

SPEAKER_04

That will find me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I feel like that's good. Yeah. Uh I like both of our choices. So it kind of uh how the rest of the fam works out. Yeah, let's go.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, the rest of the fam. Hawarik. Horic. I just see the exact same copy here, except I changed everything from man to woman. This is husband, uh, Keg and Barley's dad, also Crown Regent of Fourth Kingdom. Rules when Slate is gone. Yep. That's it. Papa. I really hope that you like my choice. I made it just for you.

SPEAKER_02

May I ask you, is this person a Broadway person? No. Okay, I thought this was gonna be, we were gonna maybe have the same. So I'm pretty excited. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

No, but I did, I did, um, couldn't think of anybody, and then I made this choice as a gift to you.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, thank you. I'm really excited. And also, damn it, because now I'm gonna be like, fuck my choice. Bro. Okay, ready, set?

SPEAKER_00

Go. Oh, the genie! That's amazing because Major Attaway was also a genie. Okay. Obsessed.

SPEAKER_01

You were like, hey, I know you fucked up by putting Delroy Lindo as Keg, but let's make him Papa Keg. Good call, good call. Okay, you go first.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I have Delroy Lindo. So Loretta just really fucked up and cast as Keg because didn't know how old Keg was, and I knew, so I could laugh at her, but I wasn't allowed to explain how I knew. So I just thought that he would be a great dad. And I think him and Gina Torres would make a hot couple, and I think they would make cute kids. Yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, I love I just look at his precious little I look at his little noggin.

SPEAKER_02

His little oh it's so cute. Um okay. I have James Monroe Eaglehart. Jeannie, who is the OG genie on Broadway in a major attaway, who's the current uh or most recent genie on Broadway, or was like the second coming of the genie.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I think he was like there's a genie at some point in time. Yes, and looks like it could be his father, quite literally.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, uh, is this lazy casting? Maybe, but I think I just think it would be real smart. And I, you know, he's he's a talent. And he's also worked on the boys recently with last season. Yeah, last season they did some um original like Broadway style music for one of the episodes. They did like an ice dance show that was like put put the Christ back in Christmas or something. Like it was just this horrible. I mean, it's the boys, right? So it's like this very deeply problematic political satire that sadly aligns so much with what we're currently living through. And he was a m vocalist with um oh my god, uh R ran Ryan uh uh Ranalds. Andrew Rannolds? Andrew Randalls, uh, yeah, and it's them two singing. Um I will watch it just for that because they're both so incredibly talented. So fun. I'll s I'll send the clip to you. It's very hilarious. Um and so yeah, I have I just have him. I was like, you know what? Everything's perfect. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

David, we'll see.

SPEAKER_00

So I love them both.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And rounding out uh this family, I didn't really have much to say about her. Her name is Barley because they run a distillery. So his name is Keg, her name is Barley, the brother's name is like Distill.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Um, okay. Now I gotta check in with you. What age did we put her at? I gave her kind of the Gen Z treatment. Yeah, early 20s. Yeah, same. I was just she was feeling very, very Gen Z sister to me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there's a couple scenes where she's given some responsibility where I'm like, you're a toddler. Like what are you a kid? Are you so I actually don't know, but I went early 20s.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, okay, that's what I did too. Like, I feel like if you told her to do something, she'd be like, okay, period. Like, you know what I mean? Like and then she would get it done. So yeah. Went with that vibe too. Okay, great. Ready, set.

unknown

Go.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's a really good one.

SPEAKER_00

Excellent choice.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay, I have I have Storm Reed.

SPEAKER_00

Wrinkle in Time.

SPEAKER_02

She's in a bunch of shit.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Um I know her from Wrinkle in Time.

SPEAKER_02

She's Wrinkle in Time, but she was just in um fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. It's like an action.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Missing. Okay. She's a missing. She's also uh uh to those who are celebrating Euphoria, she's Rue's little sister. She is. She's Rue's baby sister. Uh she yeah, Wrinkle in Time, but um Missing is like the the most recent one. And it was like the one with like her cell phone, and like it was like a big old It was like uh it's like the new taken.

SPEAKER_00

It's a thing. Okay. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

She did a little something in The Last of Us. So she feels very action-y. She's in her early 20s. I just was like thinking, like, you know, who would mom and dad make? And I just was thinking her.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. That is exactly how I got to who I got, who is Haley Bailey, uh, The Little Mermaid. Also off on a Tuscan romp with Reggae Jean Page. Reggae Jean Page. Which also, side note, as a marketer, that movie is the worst fucking tagline I've ever read in my entire life. Do you know what it is?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

She came for the pasta and she got lost in the sauce. I saw it on a billboard. Made me want to drive off the road. A, so long. And B, what what does that mean? What do you mean? Isn't it about a winery? I have absolutely no idea. It's called like Yumi in Tuscany or something. Um, it's clearly like a Gen Z under the Tuscan sun. Oh it's the worst title I've ever I've ever seen in my life.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, ick. Yeah. She came for the pasta and got lost in the sauce. I don't want to hear about nobody's coming for sauces. Ick.

SPEAKER_04

Mm mm. Mm-mm-mm. Disgusting.

SPEAKER_02

That's a movie I will watch at home. I will maybe watch it on an airplane. That's an airplane movie.

SPEAKER_00

An airplane movie for me. It's an airplane movie with Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm.

unknown

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway. Hailey Bailey's great. She's great in The Little Mermaid. She looks like a cutie patoots. She kind of reminds she kind of l reminds me visually of Gina Torres.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, actually.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So Yeah, I feel like they they have very like similar um jaw. Oh, like, you know how Gina Torres? Gina Torres also has cheekbones for days.

SPEAKER_00

And so does Hailey Bailey.

SPEAKER_02

Hayley Bailey does too, yeah. Also Hayley Bailey, really fun to say. Hailey Bailey. So fun. Hailey Bailey. Storm Reed, badass name. Hailey Bailey, fun. Cutie Petutes. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Moving on. Okay, we're out of that family. All right. We're into Pruin. Ruin. Ruin is introduced as a charming and mysterious merchant. Uh, he's secretly Faye, and he is working with the sweet life of Zach and Cody twins to trick Queen Melina into unwittingly rebuilding the bridge of Lemuria between the worlds so that the Faye armies can march on Ourea. Also, now that we're into these side characters, none of this exists on the internet. So I have to write all these by myself. And I hope that everybody appreciates the work that I'm doing. And I just like everybody should know that I'm honestly like crushing it.

SPEAKER_02

Like that's really good because I had to shorthand notes to like remember things. And like when I was going when I was making the outline for last week's, I was like, all right, uh, I think this character does this.

SPEAKER_00

I did have to figure out I did have to Google uh Bridge of Lemuria. I was just right, the bridge couldn't tell you. So I didn't have to Google that. Um, but yeah, I think I'm doing pretty good. Also, not an AI in sight. No. Fuck it. Straight out of Monogan. Fuck AI. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_02

AI can suck a what did what does Hudson say? AI can kiss my ass? Suck a dick. Yeah, suck a dick or suck it to death or something. What does he say? Fuck it to death? Fuck it to death? Oh, fuck AI. Fuck it to death. Yeah, that's what he says.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, Pruitt. I think this might be our duplicate. Because to me, this is so obvious. This is I picture this person. I pictured this actor as a character that they already play. Because to me, the characters are very similar. And I know that you've seen this show and we've cast out of this show before. Um, so I think yes. So I think Yeah, okay, we're right. Yeah, here we go. Woo!

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Little finger. Dude, there was there was no other choice.

SPEAKER_00

No other choice. I built every choice in my head the whole time.

SPEAKER_02

Who is this motherfucking little worm? Same the second well, first of all, the second I realized it he wasn't Domic, I was like, this where he's like, your heart's desiring. Do you wear this fucking compass or whatever?

SPEAKER_00

And I was like, vaguely attract like attractive enough to be manipulative, but also like a fucking sleaze ball who's ready to like throw you off to the edge of the cliff as soon as he gets what he wants.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Okay, for our listeners uh at home, um, we have Aiden Gillen who plays Littlefinger or Peter Baelish. Yeah, right? Yeah. Peter Baelish.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

From Game of Thrones, the wormiest worm of them all. Besides Grey Worm. Um, who's not a worm, but uh uh stupid.

SPEAKER_01

Really bad. Really bad.

SPEAKER_02

So bad, dude. I gotta make that because I also have ADD. I gotta get pills. Like I got ADD, ADHD. I got I'm pretty sure I'm like pretty autistic and gotta go get that checked out too. Like it's fine. We're getting there.

SPEAKER_00

We're getting there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he's I mean, he's he's the choice. That's it. Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry, you don't give a choice viewers, but he's perfect.

SPEAKER_02

So sorry, that's it. That makes me so excited. Because I I was not sure. Uh I didn't I didn't know if we would have the same for this.

SPEAKER_00

So I to me this was a no-brainer.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, same.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Baby Slade.

SPEAKER_00

Baby Slade. Now I would not write a description because it's Slade. As a baby. So it I didn't feel like it needed a description.

SPEAKER_02

What age did you go with?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, practically, I think this actor is in his 20s. Uh but visually, he looks like a child. He looks like a talker. Okay. What do they call it in casting that like 18 to look younger, 18 to play younger, or whatever?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. I I kind of went with the big second flashback of, and in my brain, I was like, okay, age math, right? So like riots, like supposed to be like 11 or whatever, because we find out that the affair's been going on that long. And then so I kind of was like, okay, did Slate a little younger to like maybe look around like 13, 12, 13? And then who I cast as baby Slade is definitely in his 20s, but could easily play like 14-15.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think that's what I did.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You ready, say? Go. Oh fuck. Wait, who's yours? I've never seen that person before in my life. Who is that?

SPEAKER_03

He is new.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, he's new. Thank you. Oh wow. I actually didn't I don't plan on that. I just kind of like, ooh. Okay, that one was bad. First one was good. Okay. Um, this is Charlie Evans.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Charlie Evans is in the show Paradise, which I just started watching.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I've been told to watch that, and I haven't watched it.

SPEAKER_02

It's real good. It's real good. You and Ian would both love it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, great.

SPEAKER_02

It's so very House of Cards. Uh a little bit of a little bit of Westworld. Um, it's it's good. It's really good. I'm really in into it. I'm only on episode four of the first season. And he now I did a little bit of lazy casting still. He I won't talk about it yet. Okay. He is the son of someone else who I cast in this in paradise. And you'll see. Um who who I who yeah. And he plays his son. This kid has cuckoo blue eyes, like uh Ian Sommerhalder.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

He, I don't know. I he showed up in the first episode. Oh, yes, and I went, who is that? I was like, he like, if he was like in his 30s, he would be a perfect slade. And then I was like, when we were like, we're baby slade, I was like, I'm gonna do that kid. Like he's great. Um perfect. He's like 26. Sure. But how old does he play on the show? He play I think he's 14. Okay. He's like 14, maybe 15 on the show. Okay. And uh he's a little he's like kind of scrawny. Um so I was thinking like, yeah, he would be around that age, high school age, early high school freshman age. Um, with everything that Slade is having done to him um uh in during this flashback. So that's what I have. I love it. I have Finn.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, fuck. I mean, he looks like Ian Summerholder, but smooler. Like he looks like yeah, of ki yeah, I don't really have anything more than that. I think he's a good actor. I only watched season one of Stranger Things, so sorry, don't hate me. Um, but he was fine in that. And I think he looks exactly like Ian Summerholder.

SPEAKER_02

No, he's like really perfect, and I'm I can't believe he never even crossed my mind. That's fucking crazy. Maybe because I'm so pissed off at Stranger Things last season. Yeah. But yeah, yes. Like yeah, it's great. He looks more like Slade than Ian Summerholder does. Like, I think he works for it, but Finn Wolfhard has like that um fantasy land sci-fi thing.

SPEAKER_00

He looks like an elf. Yes. Like remember the girl that I was telling you that hot men are like either hot uh elves, hot dwarves, or hot goblins? Yes. Celebrity men. He's uh he's a f he's a elf. He's an elephant prince, is what he is. 100%. Cheekbones for days.

SPEAKER_03

Cheekbones for days. Yeah. Yep. Okay. I think we both nailed it. Yeah, we did.

SPEAKER_00

Moving on to Baby Riot. Okay. I'm not gonna lie to you, I have zero memory of who I cast as Baby Riot.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not gonna lie to you. I also have zero memory, and I'm pretty sure I don't know who they are, and I picked them from a random Disney Channel show.

SPEAKER_00

I occasionally Google actors under 20.

SPEAKER_02

I occasionally Google what's on Disney Channel right now? Anything cool? Because you know, and then go through the cast.

SPEAKER_00

Like when you're at work and your boss is like, what do you do today? And you're like, could not tell you. Have a surely something, but like nothing's in my brain. When you ask me to like name actors, I'm like, I've never seen an actor in my life. Don't know any of them.

SPEAKER_02

Now, who I almost did was Owen something something from adolescence, who is the he's like or the the golden globe winner. He's like the baby golden globe winner this past year. And he looked too baby, and he would play. Get ready to drink, guys. I'm going to fulfill Emily's drinking game. He would play baby buck Oliver Starks. He would play him, uh young, for sure. And I was like, could I I would almost put him in there for the sake of this? Um, but I was like, no, no, no, no. Let me look and see. And I think I picked somebody from a Disney Channel movie. We'll Google it when we see who he is, because couldn't tell you what his name is.

SPEAKER_00

Perfect. Okay, ready?

unknown

God.

SPEAKER_00

Who the fuck was that? I've never seen that person before in my life.

SPEAKER_03

Are they both of ours? Not a clue. Not a clue. Yours is really yours is really good.

SPEAKER_00

Mine has black hair and the skin of a sickly Victorian child, so I felt like it looked like Riot.

SPEAKER_02

Mine, mine looked like baby Chase Crawford.

SPEAKER_00

And so I said, It's almost the same picture. Jaden.

SPEAKER_02

We're looking both of ours up. Hey listeners, um, we have two people we don't remember who they are. Uh, Emily has Jaden Martel, if you guys know who that is.

SPEAKER_00

He began his career as a child actor with roles in the comedy drama St. Vincent and science fiction film Midnight Special. I've seen neither of those. He was in it. It chapter two. Okay. In something called Mr. Harrigan's Phone.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

He looks like a nice young lad. Um, who's born in three, which makes me want to vomit a little bit. That's all I got. Okay. He kind of looks like Baby Chase Crawford. So does it. Yeah, he does. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I think that I think that neither of these would do.

SPEAKER_03

Throw one of them in there. It'll be fine. Um I have someone named Preston Oliver. Please read hit read his opening Wikipedia sum from from.

SPEAKER_02

Uh well, he's 20 years old. Okay. He was in one TV show called The Secrets of Sulfur Springs, a Disney Channel mystery thriller about two kids, Griffin and Harper, who discover a time travel portal in a haunted hotel. Okay, so he's got fantasy sci-fi vibes.

SPEAKER_03

He's got portal experience. That's very important when casting this show.

SPEAKER_02

It's very important. Um, he's an American actor born and raised in Vegas. Uh, he took an interest in acting in fifth grade when he secretly auditioned for his elementary school play, Peter Pan, when he was really trying to be a football player. Okay, Troy Bolton. He's Troy Bolton. IRL.

SPEAKER_00

Um, yes, football husband. Wait.

SPEAKER_02

Look. Sorry, I just really got into the microphone. Look at this and then look who's underneath him. Is it the boys? It is literally Chase Crawford directly under him. Wow. Because the boys is running ads. Hey guys, the boys has premiered today, episode 501 and 502. Get at it. It's pretty fun. He's in um yeah, Secrets of Silver Springs, something called High Stakes Hollow. Oh shit. He's in This Is Us, um, and he plays Kevin's son. And um he's also in Tracker. Look at him hooked in busy. Roswell, New Mexico, Chicago Fire.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I watched Chicago Fire, but that's like another Law and Order. Like literally everybody's been in one of the Chicago shows. Okay, well, this is what he looks like now as a 20-year-old. I mean, pretty much identical. He has a baby face.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, hilarious.

SPEAKER_00

Love it.

SPEAKER_02

We both were like, I don't uh remember who I have, and also wait, even when we get to them, I can't tell you who they are.

SPEAKER_03

But honestly, either we'll do. Listen, I don't cast kids. It's not my strong suit.

SPEAKER_02

It's also kind of weird. I don't know. It's just I don't watch children's shows, and I'm not gonna be like researching babies. That's weird.

SPEAKER_00

And research history gets real weird.

SPEAKER_02

It gets weird, and then you know, so we took the easy route, guys, and we just went through cast lists of Disney and children's shows. Okay. It it is a good place to look though. Yeah, there's a lot of kids in there. That's right, that's true. And weapons, probably. That's probably a good source for next time.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, good to know.

SPEAKER_02

I'm thinking about it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, continue. Okay, our last one. Stanton call.

SPEAKER_00

This fucking asshole. Um, Stanton Call is a powerful and feared Fey known as the Breaker, uh, from Anwin. He is defined by his wealth, cruelty, and influence. He's very powerful. He's like second in command to the king. He can break shit, which includes um the earth, the bridge. He's the one that broke the bridge originally. He also breaks his children's bones for fun. I think he's a bad dude. Um, he's the abusive husband of Allure and the father of Slade, both of whom he brutalizes. He discovers Allure's affair and that Riot is not his. Uh, he murders her lover and Riot's dad, triggering a violent clash with Slade, which tears open a riff between the worlds. He abandons.

SPEAKER_02

He's literally like uh he's like like patient zero. Like he's he caused this whole fucking mess.

SPEAKER_00

And I probably because I don't know how I don't know how non-spoiler question for you.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I I I don't know how Orin got it. Maybe I might be answering it. I don't know how Orin Orin. Arin got out of um Anwin and into Orya when I don't know how that happened yet. You don't know that yet. You'll you will learn though, but you don't. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But you No, I can't ask that. I'll give it away. Never mind. Okay. And then put a pin. Learn some stuff. Okay, put a pin. Also, I know who you cast because I know I have never seen Paradise, but I know who's in paradise, and I know a white man who looks like that dude's dad, and I'm gonna guess that can I guess before we go? Yeah. Is it James Marston? Sure is.

SPEAKER_02

It's James Marston. I did lazy casting. Let's hear God, I love him. He's so cute. He could play, he could play Ian Somerholder's dad. He has aged very nicely.

SPEAKER_00

Now, I don't think he's old enough.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and I he might not be old enough, but he could be. He could, because it's a flashback and we aren't, as far as I know, seeing him now. Like, I assume he he's dead and gone, maybe. Hide that face of yours, girl. Maybe, maybe he's not. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but in the more flashbacks that I know about that we don't. There could be more flashbacks.

SPEAKER_02

I think like in the flashbacks, that's like who I was picturing.

SPEAKER_00

But you're worried about him being old because he is the one that broke the bridge, which was like what, like 500 years ago or something? Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So I and I didn't I didn't think that him and like Ian Summerhalder were too close in age um to make it weird. I think it would make it look like, oh yeah, no, that would that's like that's his dad. And and he can be a fucking shithead too. Like sometimes he plays wonderful characters that are just, you know, he's Prince Charming, right? He's from I see him in Enchanted. Like Yeah. Yeah. But he's also played characters where he's very abusive and very terrible. And from what I'm watching right now in Paradise, I don't know a lot about his character. And that's the mystery of the show is was he a really bad guy? He might be a really bad guy, which I find is very interesting. Okay, okay, okay. James Marsden. Good guessing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I guess my boy Matt Smith. I'll put him in anything, um, because I think he's a phenomenal actor as the doctor, as um Prince Phillip. Philip, there it is, dude from House of Dragon, which I've never seen, but he looks creepy as fuck in that. Um, I think Matt Smith is hot, but also can be terrifying and isn't afraid to like not look hot. Like I think sometimes hot actors, even when they're being like scary and mean, are like, but my jawline. And Matt's just like, I'll make whatever face you need me to make and wear a stupid rig and look scary and like really goes there with how scary he can be. Um, and I think Stanton Call is actually terrifying. Yeah, like is also charming and like has a lot of influence and power, um, but is terri like everyone is afraid of him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm. I really like that because Matt Smith, there's something about Matt Smith. It's slightly unnerving. It's because he's got no eyebrows, but he's got a really prominent brow line. Brow line, yeah. And you're like, what's going on there? Like, I can see your emotions with no eyebrows. Like, mm-hmm. Yeah. I really like that. I like that a lot.

SPEAKER_00

I might need him to like bulk up a little bit. Like, I feel like Stanton Call also needs to be like physically intimidating, whereas I know Matt Smith looks different now, but I my first thought of him is always Doctor Who, where he's like a linky little nerd.

SPEAKER_02

Um and so I might need him to balk up a little bit, but I think in House House of the Dragon, there's there's some schmecky scenes and he's uh he's beefed up. There are. Oh yeah, but um yeah. Not good ones. Okay. Well, just something to know about House of the Dragon is like it's uh it's like all in very incestuous. Oh. Well, because it's a with the house Targaryen. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So um yeah, he's in love with his niece. Uh that's not a secret. It's like right away in episode one. So but it's really hard to explain because you actually like really do root for them. Kind of, because he really does look out for her and love her and is devoted to her, but it's like also gross. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh a little bit like with some of the spark of the ever plane everplane, uh ever I've convinced myself in Kindred's Curse that they're all like the um corbois family, but like they're all like 18 cousins removed. And it's all like to the I I just that's where I have to believe. I don't don't think they ever explain how closely related they are, that they're just corbois cousins, and like that could mean anything. And I've just convinced myself that it's fine.

SPEAKER_02

I've decided that like they so willingly um welcome Diem in and they're like, You're a cousin now, we'll throw you on the family tree. That they've done that before, and so like none of them actually are really cousins. That's what I've decided.

SPEAKER_00

And also none of the cousins that we get to know are sleeping with each other, which isn't like we don't, it's not present and accounted for. And they even like draw some pretty clear boundaries of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

For sure.

SPEAKER_02

We did it. Well, fuck. I like all of these though. Yeah, we did a really good job. I'm gonna be happy with all of them, um, per usually, but I mean, I still like to win, but yeah, I'll be happy with all of them. And you have been.

SPEAKER_00

I, you know, you have been. I think we're both very good at this, but I am also a deeply competitive person, so it's probably good that I that I'm winning.

SPEAKER_02

It's good that you would be like, I can't do this podcast anymore. I'd be like, Emily, you gotta, we can't, nope.

SPEAKER_00

You're gonna let this podcast 24 hours mad smith.

unknown

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

It's extortion. I have a good over it, but I am a very competitive person, so I do like to win.

SPEAKER_02

You also have like a lot of friends that I feel like you're like, hey, shout out friend of the pod, Mary. Nope.

SPEAKER_00

I have never okay. Scouts honor have never, what is it, three fingers for Girl Scouts? I have never bullied a friend into voting for me. I have bullied them into liking the podcast. I have never told them to vote and they don't know from the slides who's is who.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Mm-hmm. That's true. I don't tell anybody. That is true. That's true. Um, do you vote for all of your own? Yes, of course I do. Okay, I don't. What? Why not? There are some that I truly believe you made a better choice and I will concede to that. And you're just a better person than me.

SPEAKER_00

Yes I am. Just kidding.

unknown

Just kidding.

SPEAKER_00

Meanwhile, I play to fucking win. You can be a good person and I'll be over here with the trophy.

SPEAKER_02

I still voted for Delroy Lindo on my own.

SPEAKER_00

Even though I knew it was wrong.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. It was true. It was me. I straight up was like, sorry guys, this is wrong. I'm not going to pretend I was correct in this. This was this was the wrong vibe. I I had a really hard time with that last this that last book. So we got through it and now we're in gold which is great. And now we're in gold and that is where we will uh wrap up our episode be voting on these on FanCast Fridays on our Instagram. If you are not following our Instagram, get the fuck over there and follow us. It's where all the fun happens. It's where all the fun oh my God uh what's that thing from Star Wars where this this is where the fun begins. Do you remember that? From the third the third like our generation Star Wars with Hayden Christensen. Revenge of the Sith Revenge of the Sith is the third one and it starts out with a pew pew pew space fight whatever. You know is that a good way to describe Star Wars I think that sums it up pretty nicely as someone who loves Star Wars? I think so. Pew pew pew pew space fight okay and then you get a shot of like Obi-Wan's like flying around zip zipping and then you get like Mace Windu is like zip zipping over there and then light flavor. Yes with the pur like I love it like one and only purple. And uh until you get to Clone Wars and then it's anyways. And then there's purple flavors abound everywhere. And you're like where did you all come from? Um I like the choice but damn it's Hayden Christensen and you get this shot of him and he's like this is where the fun begins and I remember watching that going oh I fucking hate this movie.

SPEAKER_04

Oh I hate it.

SPEAKER_02

But poor baby Hayden Christensen we're gonna cast him in something because he deserves Christensen I also deserved more.

SPEAKER_00

Listen those movies were written created and designed to get new fans to the Star Wars fandom and they did that because as a kid I loved those movies and I didn't know that they were wrong or bad. And so they did exactly what they were supposed to do. And also George Rings was objectively hilarious to me as a toddler. Hilarious vaguely annoying um but at the time hysterical and now from that I have seen every single Star Wars movie ever made I'm a huge fan um and those were my entryway entry point to them.

SPEAKER_02

So absolutely with the hate of the yeah prequel absolutely and we are correct Star Wars fans because we have previously said that we know that Rogue One a Star Wars movie is the best Star Wars thing and then followed by Clone Wars. Yeah Clone Wars is great.

SPEAKER_00

Because Baby knows ball ball being Star Wars in this situation and and Sweetie knows space no okay well and on that note I think we can just take baby knows ball and apply it to whatever we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that'll become a thing for us sweetie knows space no no you don't like it nope what if try it again nope no need to try again it's not working okay guys let's get the fuck out of here um everyone for listening to another episode of Fancastic we'll see you guys next week for our very spoilery uh recap of gold so far my um do we have anything to announce right now no I don't think so we got some cosplays we're working on guys oh yeah we got some cod cosplays we're trying some new things one of which relates to this exact series it sure does so watch the space so watch the space for our cosplay loading any of us being painted gold shockingly no so it could involve some spikes though uh it could it's gonna be so good okay guys thanks for listening and we'll see you next time to all you she's the he's the they's the gays the shadow daddies and the fes goodbye we should do this singing more okay bye what what's the Jessica Vosk one woo woo woo woo or whatever that one she does that she woo woo woo some I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Okay bye goodbye what a way to end